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Obi-Wan Kenobi ([personal profile] hadthehighground) wrote2025-01-21 04:45 pm

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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2024-05-19 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
[Ezra remains quiet for a moment, debating how to respond.]

...I forgot my brother for a little while. [His gaze darts to Obi-Wan, who he offers a rueful smile. Yes, he means Obi-Wan. Ben. Whatever.]

And my foster sister and the people who took us in- everything in my life past about age 13, I think. Maybe a little younger. I was actually 20 at the time.

Now, I was very, very lucky. The sight of my brother's face - [And again he is simplifying here, because his relationship with the Obi-Wan Kenobi of Trench was a little different, for all they were family. But with the bits of memories that had clicked back into place, he was definitely thinking 'brother'.]

Brought just enough back to remember that I could trust him, and we figured out that it was something...actually fixable, because a creature was actively trying to take memories from me. If hadn't felt that I could trust him, I probably run away and hidden, and I am pretty good at hiding, so that could have been quite a mess.

It was sort of like the Trials here, so there was zombies, and fighting, and magic involved. [He waves a hand dismissively.] Long story.

I had pretty complicated feelings just about that, like, couple of weeks. A boat load of embarrassment, definitely. [Part of his embarrassment is how hard he'd clung to the memory of his brother when that man did not share those memories, for all Master Kenobi of Trench had been gentle, and tried not to confuse him, reiterating that they were family and there was nothing to be ashamed of.] And there's only so much the comparison holds, I'm sure.

[He pauses again.]

It wasn't my fault. This isn't yours. [And it wasn't Obi-Wan, or Luke, or Leia or any one else he loves' fault that they kept meeting out of order and Ezra kept having re-introduce himself and figure out what sort of relationship they could have.]

Some things are beyond our control.
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-19 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
[Ingo listens with interest, even if it does mingle with some confusion once zombies and magic get thrown into the mix. He hasn't really met other people with memory loss. Technically, if Ezra recovered, he still hasn't. But it is interesting to hear another account.]

...but you remembered him when you saw him again. Perhaps not fully, but enough. I couldn't manage even that much.

[A brief flash of his disastrous first meeting with Emmet - just standing there trying to make awkward conversation while his brother sobbed at him, because he hadn't even realized he was real and not some creation of the Fox. Ingo's disgusted with himself. And even if not then, to not have remembered a single thing in the months since...well, it's really no wonder Bo-Katan finally decided to take action.]

I had always thought I might, if I ever met anyone I had known. But of course not.

[A good brother, someone who really cared enough, would have remembered.]
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2024-05-20 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ezra sighs softly-]

I don't believe it was any virtue of mine, it was just the way it happened. Another day or so of that creature feeding off memories, and it might not have gone that way. [Although he can't be sure. Connections in the Force between sensitives can be strange things, not entirely linear or quantifiable, and might have served as some sort of anchor point he instinctively clung to, even if he didn't have a single conscious memory.

But it was certainly no fault of Ingo's that he isn't literally psychic.]
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-27 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I see.

[Ingo's disappointed, but he's not terribly surprised. He'd known from the beginning that this was probably a long shot. Frankly, he's a little disgusted with himself for having asked at all - once again, he's wasting these good peoples' time and effort.]

Well, thank you for trying, in any case.

[That seems to be the end of it? He opens his eyes, glancing between them to make sure that no one is still...telepathically in his mind or anything before he rises to go.]
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-27 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
[It is, extremely literally, a failure. They attempted something and failed. It's the dictionary definition.

Ingo keeps that to himself.]


Of course.
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-27 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought you had finished.

[Ingo would very much prefer that his thoughts not be read, if we aren't doing anything constructive in there! Aside from dismissing his feelings as nonsense, apparently.

(Oh Sinnoh, is he going to tell Bo-Katan about all of this?)]


I'm certainly willing to try anything, but I do not wish to take up any more of your time. If you are willing to teach me how, I'm sure I can just proceed on my own.
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2024-05-27 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ezra had been keeping silent, not sure that he can contribute more than Obi-Wan had, although he does close his eyes and silently sigh when the older Jedi uses the word 'nonsense'. He agrees very much with the thrust of what Obi-Wan is saying, but that is not the word he would have used.

To be fair to everyone here, Ezra knows convincing someone that self-destructive habits aren't the path forward is difficult.

Ok, here goes-]


Ingo, you are not wasting our time. We are in no rush to get you out our door. We weren't the first time you were here. I, personally, was concerned about you but happy to make sure you had a safe place to stay and food to eat.

Why did you leave? I think - I think maybe we talk through what we actually mean about focus determining reality. If you are willing to honestly answer that.
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-27 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ingo glances warily between the two of them.]

...well. It is nothing I have not said before. My conduct while I was staying here was absolutely unacceptable. A grown man should not be - lying about all day, forcing others to wait on him hand and foot. And he certainly should not be - throwing tantrums.

[Though no one would have known about that if Bo-Katan hadn't barged into his room in the first place. How was he supposed to keep sleeping there, knowing that she might show up at any time? It wasn't safe.]
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2024-05-27 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ezra clocks that headache and uneasiness from Obi-Wan, and makes a mental note to check in more with Obi-Wan in a while. But stays more focused on Ingo.]

You weren't forcing us. It was service offered freely. Your conduct was concerning, because it was clear you weren't....in good health. But I am a healer, I choose to be concerned for, and do things for people who aren't well, regularly. If anyone here found your behavior unacceptable, then - that was a conversation Obi-Wan or I would have had with you. And even then it would have been a balancing of responsibilities. To not give more than we could give without draining ourselves, maybe, or to protect the other people here, if you lashed out at them. But we had no such plans. The only person you were hurting was yourself.

This is what we mean. You felt that you were forcing us to do things for you. That we would or perhaps should think badly of you. Those feelings are real, to you, but that doesn't mean they reflected reality for us. You acted on what you felt to be true and withdrew. You passed judgement on yourself, and that determined your reality.

But that is not the only way things might have gone.
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-27 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not see how anyone could possibly not think badly of me, having witnessed all of that.

[It's kind of them to pretend otherwise, of course. But who wouldn't judge? Ingo's judging himself!]

Even if you somehow did not, I should not take advantage of that pity.
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2024-05-27 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ezra blinks slowly; he is not....angry, but he is quietly baffled.]

Which part of I am a healer sworn to service and compassion to the best of my ability, of my own free will, did you not understand? Or do you believe I am lying to your face?
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-27 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ingo blinks at him, also baffled.]

I am not your patient. I am not even injured. You do not owe it to me to excuse bad behavior just because of your profession.
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-27 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I did not mean to foist an obligation upon you! I thought this was a one-time attempt!

[It didn't even work!]

I did.
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I am in no condition to be living with anyone at all, never mind Emmet. I need to fix whatever is wrong with me.

[Also being able to lock your bedroom door is extremely important to him.]
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2024-05-28 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
No, no, back up. This is the book about autism, right?
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[personal profile] offtracks 2024-05-28 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
No, I do not mean the memories. Or at least, not only that.

[He means all the ways he was while he was here. And frankly still is, in a lot of respects, though at least it isn't affecting anyone but himself now.]

Uh - yes, it is? Did you read it also?
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2024-05-28 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
[HE shakes his head slightly.]

No, but Obi-Wan mentioned the book. I am...not an expert on the topic of autism. But it has come up in my studies.

[He tilts his head back, thinking.] And perhaps, considering what I do know - we did you a disservice by not being as clear as possible from the moment you came here, about, well, a number of things and coming up with a framework we were all the same page about.

So, yes, I was not...strictly applying the framework of you being my patient, until this conversation about looking into your amnesia. All that stuff about consent and how you could back out - that was medical ethics stuff. But then, Jedi do not, always act strictly as medical professionals. We act in many different capacities, where we come from, the lines can be blurry.

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